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And we inch closer and closer to a literally Orwellian society. Where the fuck can I escape to?
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September 30, 2010
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September 30, 2010
September 30, 2010 at 3:25 PM
As with everything, Clint, it’s a trade-off. Some abuses will be inevitable. But also, maybe they would have caught the VT shooter. Food for thought.
September 30, 2010 at 3:28 PM
Bullshit. The VT shooter exhibited plenty of warning signs that were known by the university. There’s no way in a million realities this ever would have made a difference. He was already under the eye of the university.
You’ve been watching Minority Report too much. Your attitude to authority makes you an enemy to freedom.
September 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM
If you think there’s any way to stop this, you’re way more naive than I thought. As I’ve always said, who cares about surveillance? It’s laws and social mores that need to adapt to the coming awareness of what’s always been going on but hidden up until now. More information is always better. But that’s no guarantee increased information will be used correctly, and that’s where the focus of activism should be.
September 30, 2010 at 4:03 PM
You raise the surrender flag while telling us all to enjoy our overlords. Frankly, your authoritarian attitude makes me sicker than the ignorant shit that comes out of the mouths of the Tea Party. I’d sooner join them than you.
Naive? Really? They could wiretap phones when they were first invented, but they passed laws preventing it by granting people privacy.
And they were fine until the patriot act pissed on them.
Frankly, I find you a coward who is willing to live in a police state to stop a few deaths.
It’s just a new cult with you, the cult of authoritarianism.
September 30, 2010 at 9:29 PM
Calm down.
September 30, 2010 at 9:32 PM
If you listed to what I actually said, it’s that we need to focus our activism on laws and social mores, which will determine what can be done with surveillance information. I stand on that and we obviously strongly disagree. But calling me “authoritarian” is beyond the pale. I just think the privacy issue is so beyond overblown.
September 30, 2010 at 9:40 PM
I honestly assume everything I say on the phone or any other communications device is most likely being listened to. At the very least with a speech to text algorithm keyed on certain words.
But I don’t have the illusion that anything I might say is either important enough or dangerous enough for anyone listening to care about it. So I don’t care if they listen.
October 1, 2010 at 9:15 AM
I heard what you said. Your attitude has always boiled down to “let’s fix the laws, then an intrusive government that enforces them with an iron fist at the expense of our privacy will be AWESOME”. Not just on this. Consistently over the course of talking to you. I think Ben Franklin would punch you in the face.