Remember, remember the 5th of November.
The gunpowder, treason, and plot.
I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason
should ever be forgot.

Thanks to everyone who said I’d love this film. You know me well.

Then again — I thought it was quite obvious I’d like it, so maybe you don’t know me well.

:)

RATING

I always rate movies 2 ways, because I feel both scales have their own merits, and both of these scales are 2 of the most commonly-used: IMDB, and Netflix.

If this was Netflix, I’d give it 5/5 stars. (with precision: 4.5). I didn’t just like it, I loved it, which is how they describe 4 vs 5.
For IMDB, I’d give it a 9/10 (with precision: 8.7). Of course, I rate a bit higher compared to most people, considering many of the IMDB Top #250 movies are only 7.9s.
In this case, V For Vendetta is actually ranked as movie #138 of all time, with an 8.1.

POLITICS

In a sense, this movie was the exact opposite of George Orwell‘s 1984.

1984 teaches you that once societal infrastructure is built up to a certain point of technological oppression, resistance will literally become futile. What does mankind have in store for him? According to George Orwell, on his death bed “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human faceforever.” He fought bravely to fight fascism, got shot in the throat, talked funny for the rest of his life, watched his wife die, and was a bit of a cynic.

V For Vendetta shows us that what we learned in 1984 might not be true. It showed us that one individual can still make a difference (at least, if you were injected with a serum that gave you super-human strength & reaction speed). But V4V did not go into great details about superpowers; they were tangential to the plot. The movie was truly a political movie, about symbolism, about how an act that has no meaning in and of itself can be imparted with meaning, due to the power that symbols have over us. (Which is true — how else could destroying 2 buildings still have have global impact 6 years later?)

It also showed us that perhaps it is still possible to lead a revolution in this modern-day age.

And guess what? The guy who played Winston in the 1984 (that came out in 1984) was the same guy who played Adam Sutler, the High Chancellor! You’ve come a long way, baby!  From the tortured to the bringer of torture!

More discussion with spoilers at the bottom, after the two pictures.  I have some requests for comments but you have to have seen the movie.

HDTV

We enjoyed this movie in 720P, about 2.5X dvd quality. It was definitely a boon to the viewing experience!

COINCIDENCE

The strangest thing was that we had been meaning to watch this movie for over 1.5 yrs or so. We finally obtained it, and even then did not watch it for weeks. Finally, spontaneously, on Nov 4th we watched it. The movie takes place on Nov 4th! (and 5th) It was weird hearing them say “What day is it?”, and having an accurate real-life answer :)

Also, I did indeed catch the reference to Einstein’s opinion on quantum physics, that “God does not play dice”. Good stuff.

THE FULL CHANT (NOT IN THE MOVIE)

“Remember, remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot. I see no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot. Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, ’twas his intent to blow up the King and the Parliament. Three score barrels of powder below, Poor old England to overthrow: By God’s providence he was catch’d With a dark lantern and burning match. Holloa boys, holloa boys, make the bells ring. Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King! Hip hip hoorah! A penny loaf to feed the Pope. A farthing o’ cheese to choke him. A pint of beer to rinse it down. A faggot of sticks to burn him. Burn him in a tub of tar. Burn him like a blazing star. Burn his body from his head. Then we’ll say ol’ Pope is dead. Hip hip hoorah! Hip hip hoorah!” It is still recited in full at the famous Lewes bonfire night celebrations in East Sussex.”

LINKS

Guy Fawkes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes
The Gunpowder Plot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot

V For Vendetta wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta_%28film%29
V For Vendetta IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/
V For Vendetta IMDB trivia page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/trivia – more trivia than on average



I want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or 2. Or 1,000.

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I’M DISTURBED

Despite loving this movie,  I’m quite disturbed by Evey’s treatment at the hands of V.  I mean, he basically forced her to re-live her most painful childhood memory.

Did he turn in her friend, just to do this?  The part of me that gives the benefit of the doubt says that V learned of the raid happening, and followed by, knowing she would hide under the bed. But gee, wouldn’t agents know to look under a bed anyway? (They didn’t when she was  a kid, which was unrealistic enough. But twice?)

So really, if V wanted to guarantee “keeping” Evey, then he would have had to turn them in himself.  Or hire people to cooperate in the raid.  (Or perhaps I’m fuzzy on the details and they only ever showed 1 person?)  But her friend got fucked up; for a movie with a pretty low level of gore (by my standards — though I do watch Troma movies), that was a pretty violent one-stroke beating he took to his face; it looked like his flesh was stripped to the bone. And he fell right in front of her face. And she had to not scream.  If V had anything to do with that, then I can’t help but think that’s kind of fucking twistedly evil.

And if he knew it was going to happen, he could have saved her friend.

And then he tortures Evey.  For how long? Days? Weeks? Months? They never make it that clear, though her hair doesn’t grow back too much, it looks like a month to me.

And he does all this because she had the unfortunate luck of mentioning that she wanted to live without fear?  If anybody ever interprets me so literally, please seek clarification before torturing me, please!

So, I don’t quite understand how he could be so evil as to inflict so much pain.  And I don’t quite understand how Evey could thank him, kiss him, defend him, and still be loyal to him after all that.

That is my fatal flaw of the movie (or of myself); that I wont really ever be able to truly understand it.  It’s why I consider it more of an 8.7 than a 9.0.

And if anyone wants to enlighten me; I’d be honored.