I’ve been meaning to blog this for a LONG LONG time, but…. I could just never find a way to properly voice my frustration.
Ram’s Head specifically billed the concert as “Glenn Danzig playing classic songs by the Misfits and Danzig”. NOT ONE FUCKING MISFITS SONG WAS PLAYED. I’m pissed. The people at the show were pissed. There are some good reviews online, but they are ignoring the energy of the actual hardcore fans who made this show possible in the first place. Oh and by the way, I photographed the setlist, and only 3 songs from Danzig’s 1st 2 albums were even played. So it wasn’t even classic Danzig songs either! Ram’s Head Lies!
For a good 15 minutes after the show ended, myself and many other stood at the stage, in UTTER FUCKING DISBELIEF. I’ve never seen so much post-show stage-lingering. I’ve never felt such a negative audience vibe — at any concert, EVER. I’ve only been to about 45, but I think this was the first time I’d ever felt such negative energy in my life.
First off: Look at this shitty setlist! I knew most of the songs when I heard them, and I like most of the songs too. And I enjoyed seeing them live. But they were by no means my favorite Danzig songs. They only played 2 songs (the last 2 of the night) off Danzig 1, his best album. So I was left wanting until the end of the show. “No Misfits, not even any early Danzig?!?!” And only 1 song from Danzig 2, his 2nd best album. That leaves 15 other songs (5 times as much) from all his other albums. And it takes about all his other albums put together to equal the goodness of Danzig 1 and Danzig 2. So the music was not even early Danzig; this was mostly late Danzig. This was about as far as “classic songs by the Misfits” as you could get without the assistance of Dr. Who or a time machine. So anyway, the shitty setlist:
Here were my thoughts on the setlist after the show:
So anyway — All the nice people may want to compliment Danzig on putting on a great show, but the fucker fell of the stage and broke his arm shoulder in the middle. Is this an excuse? They apologists say he would have played Misfits songs, but he got injured. So why weren’t there any songs on the playlist? Am I to believe that all the Misfits songs would have magically came had he not broken his arm? Right at the end of the show there? Or did Ram’s Head simply FUCKING LIE in their promotions to increase sales? Is Danzig so unaware of how he is billed that we are supposed to believe that Danzig didn’t know it was being billed as classic Misfits songs?
Or is he quite willing to market one band he is in to sell another? Considering there are doll versions of Glenn Danzig from each of his 3 bands (Misfits, Samhain, Danzig), evidence would point to yes:
Danzig’s appearance in Aqua Teen Hunger Force — the animators got annoyed because he kept sending the animation back, saying “I’m more ripped than that!”, and wanting to be taller and more muscular. (He’s like 5 foot 2-4.) This is as claimed by the Aqua Teen creators, in dvd extras from the various Aqua Teen Hunger Force dvds.
However, according to this interview, Danzig says that it is Jerry Only who is the one telling venues that they will be playing Misfits songs. If that is true, then Fuck You Jerry Only. This is YOUR fault.
So anyway, I know plenty of people who went ONLY to see The Misfits songs. They got SCREWED. The tickets specifically said “performing classic songs by The Misfits”. The fliers did too. I thought it was going to exclusively be Misfits songs… And none were even on the pre-determined setlist!
Immediately when he walked off of the stage after the first encore (you know, the one that finally included songs off his first album), there was anger like I had never felt in any of the 40+ concerts I’ve ever gone to. You can’t see too much, but listen to these 30 seconds of anger. You will hear “He’s not coming back to Baltimore again”, “you lied to us”, “this is your fault”, among other angry sentiments. Check out the hate — from the fans:
Here are some people who were definitely dressed up as The Misfits fans, and not Danzig fans. They weren’t happy either:
Pissed off Misfits fans.
It wasn’t long before most of the entire crowd just started chanting “bullshit, bullshit, bullshit”. I’d never seen a crowd so angry. Let alone a crowd of paying fans who just paid to see a concert performed by somebody they are a fan of. It takes a lot to make people as pissed of as Danzig did tonight. Is this what Andy Kaufman fans were made to feel like? Observe the bullshit chanting (also 30 second):
I think one of the band members came out and tried to pass off the excuse that Danzig broke his shoulder, but that’s no excuse for a pre-printed setlist that contains 0 songs after having a printed flyer advertising “classic songs by the Misfits”.
More pissed off fans of The Misfits asking other Danzig band member, “WTF?!?!?!”
These 2 fans I “interviewed” after the show agree completely (again, 30 seconds):
Didn’t Danzig learn from the Samhain/Danzig tour? EVERYONE LOVED Samhain (Danzig’s old band which was on reunion tour), and went nuts when they played. But as soon as Danzig came out with his current band and played, everyone just stood still, motionless. DID HE LEARN NOTHING? (Actually, he learned to focus more on songs everyone knows than just playing the new album. Smart move, Glenn.)
In the videos, you can clearly see everyone is still standing at the stage, pissed off, waiting for their fucking Misfits songs.
I seriously feel like a fucking class action lawsuit or at least a consumer affairs complaint should be filed against Ram’s Head (and maybe Danzig) for false advertising. Anyone know what county Ram’s Head is in? I’d like to obtain a complaint form. I’ll fill it out. I’ll make copies for anyone else who wants to as well.
Anyway… I’m pissed. I’m still pissed. And I’ll continue to be pissed. And I’m still pissed off at my parents for not letting me see The Undead (Bobby Steele’s band after being kicked out of The Misfits) in 1989, the cause of my first-ever alcoholic drink. The reason being that I wanted to see Misfits songs performed live by an original member of the band. SCREWED IN 1989, SCREWED IN 2007. This just verifies that my first drunk was completely justified. Ahh, a 40 oz. can of several-year-old australia beer, opened up with the corner of a bunkbed ladder. I can now taste it like it was yesterday. (Still being drunk at school the next day was not that coo though, especially since it was the one time I slept through the bus and had to be driven in.)
And no, I don’t want to see the new fucking Misfits; they fucking suck. They were worth seeing before they developed their own shitty discography, but now that they have their own shitty discography: Fuck Misfits (new).
So here’s the order: “The Misfits” (old) > Danzig (best albums) > The Undead > Samhain > Danzig (removing the best albums) > Britney Spears > “Misfits” (new).
At least there are other bands looking to fill this demand:
My complete pictureset from this night is HERE.
SOME OTHER REVIEWS AND SUCH
Rock N’ Roll Experience review.
Elizabeth Bouras’s review of the show — she’s the best Misfits fan ever. I ran into her in Potomac Mills in 1990 or so, talked, exchanged info, and she sent me LOADS of xeroxed Misfits memorabilia and info. This was before the internet, and BBSes did not feature a lot of obscure music, as they were local and only consisted of a few people. This was like receiving a gigabyte of data when you only owned a 100-meg harddrive. It was sooooooo great to meet her. And then open up magazines and randomly see her name quoted. I found her again on livejournal, after the show, going on the fact that her name was ‘evb’ and those were her initials. But her ferver in fandom was so strong that I recognized the energy, not the name. Talked to her, and, yes — it was her.
Baltimore City Paper review of the show.
Dave N’s review. He went to us with the show, as did Chris W (non-blogger, ex-BBSer).
Glen was about 10 feet in front of us for a good 45 minutes before we noticed. I also ran into my friend Lauren S, and Erik & Mark S (brothers). We stood by them for most of the concert.
Us, excited both by seeing Danzig but especially by the prospect of “classic songs by The Misfits”.
snippet from Glen:
From the 9:30 Club message board:
” That lady your calling a “stripper transexual” is Doyle’s wife. She used to be a profwrestler. She went by the name “Gorgeous Goerge.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Bellars
” Had tickets to the B’more show. but decided to go see the Pumpkins that night in Philly, then Danzig the next. He said he broke his shoulder, and had it in a sling. lol. must have been a really off night for him. His set was short, but he did bring Doyle out and play some Misfits tracks for an encore. Skulls was the only “major” Misfits track they played, and they everybody in stage kept playing the wrong song, while danzig sang a completely different one. Not much of a “Misfits Reunion””
^^ Danzig, getting knocked out
If he had played Misfits songs, perhaps the crowd would have been as happy after the show as they were towards the end of the setlist:
This is what it should have looked like all night.
Liars!
January 24, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Sorry to hear this.
January 25, 2008 at 9:45 AM
heh. yeah. that sucked. thanks for the “shout-out.” Ryan thought it sucked as well.
November 16, 2009 at 1:57 AM
if you wanted to see misfits you shoulda seen the Misfits, Jerry is the one and only.. its too bad you went to see a sell-out danzig instead of the true misfits… FUCK YOU DANZIG
November 16, 2009 at 10:24 AM
No, If I’d wanted to see The Misfits, going to see the current Misfits is the last thing I’d ever do. Jerry is not the one in only; all the first-era Misfits songs were written — even the music — by Danzig. The current Misfits is not the original Misfits and never will be. Without Danzig writing their songs, their songs are utterly useless and capture nothing of the old Misfits.
January 25, 2008 at 9:47 AM
I just read the articles and have to confess that i missed his fall. So did Ryan. Bullshit.
January 25, 2008 at 9:48 AM
“On the upside, the mag notes that Danzig stuck around long enough to autograph something from everyone in the audience, and the fan that waited longest got a free box set.” That was nice.
January 25, 2008 at 9:55 AM
Source:
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/01/any-book-depict.html
January 25, 2008 at 9:55 AM
“Doyle’s band, Beautiful Frankenstein were 3rd on the bill & the band was a 3 piece unit..their singer quit, so the bassist took over as singer & wore a Burger King style headset mic.” – Didn’t know this. Looked FUCKING GAY!
Also:
“The interesting thing about the bands set was, they had a stripper pole with a thick blonde stripper sporting mummy-like cloths that revealed a little too much of her thick frame…”
“There was a Misfits set planned, but after Glenn’s fall, he nixed 2 songs off the Danzig set list & the entire Misfits jam with Doyle was called off… the crowd was yelling “Bull Sh*t” over & over when the lights came on & there was NO Misfits jam with Doyle, which was the advertised draw for this show.”
“Glenn’s roadie gave a kid a Danzig boxset after the show & told him that he won the prize for waiting to meet Glenn the longest, & IF you own any bootleg Danzig posters, DO NOT bring them to get autographed..a fan tried to get Glenn to autograph one & he refuses, telling the roadie to tell the kid that he won’t autograph bootlegs!”
“Mr. Matt Ceci who attended the next nights Danzig show in Philly at the Electric Factory..he reported that Glenn was wearing a sling on his injured arm & looked in pain at various points in the show & even commented during the 5 song Misfits jam that he was glad the Misfits songs were all short!”
“at one point Glenn saw someone taking pictures & notioned to a roadie to get security to take the camera.”
January 26, 2008 at 1:11 PM
A 5-song jam? That’s not even on the setlist?
(which *DID* include the encores, despite what people say — I held and photographed the setlist myself)
I guess that TECHNICALLY meets “playing classic songs by the Misfits”, but I was expecting it to be the whole damned setlist!
January 28, 2008 at 8:23 AM
Manual trackback:
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http://balzac308.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=1259
February 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM
^^ that Balzac forum is funny because they’re like “I hate bloggers”.
Of course, how is a message forum message with responses any different than a blog with comments, other than the lack of an RSS feed?
February 4, 2008 at 12:19 PM
^^^^ And on that same forum, they were skeptical that Ram’s Head advertised it like that. Yet, here it is, still up:
LINK: http://tickets.ramsheadlive.com/eventperformances.asp?evt=77&c=1&pg=
BACKUP: http://www.acm.vt.edu/~clint/download/imagedump/ramsh3adlive-are-liars-500x-.jpg
February 17, 2008 at 11:27 PM
You went to a Danzig show. Danzig shows and disappointment go hand in hand; everyone in attendance is typically desperately hoping to hear either the entire first album or a Misfits-era/Samhain tribute. The guy has about 18 years of music nobody in his fan base really wants to hear live.
It’s shit that he didn’t do the Misfits set, but it’s pretty telling that your reasons for even going were the aforementioned hopes of hearing anything but that 18-year chunk of self-fellating music he’s been amassing like some mountainous waste of plastic, vinyl and recording time.
In future, never have high hopes if your main attraction is Danzig. Unlucky draw on the night of your attendance, what with him falling off the stage and you being subjected to Doyle’s new band, but when you know Glenn tacks on the Misfits set as a bonus (despite that set being the major draw for the bulk of his fan base), expect to feel like you’ve been had– even if he plays those songs. You just paid full pop to see a 30 minute show from an era that, like it or not, is bygone.
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July 2, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Leave Danzig alone. It’s the venue you should cry to.
July 16, 2008 at 2:40 PM
wtf, want some cheese with that whine?
what does it get you to make a website n
hate on poor Glenn… just watch the clip where a fat guy knocks him down a few times on youtube n get over it
allthough you should never trust commercials
everyone knows that
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Let’s see how long a link to this from Danzig’s wikipedia page lasts :D I think it’s valid!
August 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM
I was at this show and was one of the “bullshit” chanters. It’s true, I have never been so pissed off at a show in my life. I’m just glad he’ll always remember Bmore as the town where his dumb ass fell off the stage. And to top my night off with a cherry, while waiting in the mile-long line to get into the parking garage, some white trash Dundalk cunt decided to pepper spray her equally as drunk and white trash boyfriend. Which of course effectively pepper spray-ed the crowd of people waiting to get to their cars. What a perfect cherry on top of the shit sundae that was this show.
October 12, 2008 at 3:54 PM
I saw Danzig a few years ago in Montreal at The Medley and they actually played a whole set of misfits songs with Doyle, it was awesome when they played “Mommy, Can I go Out And Kill Tonight”.
October 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Derek, I’d have loved that, since that was the very song that got me into The Misfits, c.1989/90.
October 16, 2008 at 12:49 PM
if you were expecting a full misfits set you shoulda researched it a bit first. i think it was dumb of the venue to advertise it like that though, hands down. i’ve seen danzig twice in the apst (both times with doyle) and i gotta say you did miss out on something special. the whole shoulder thing sucked, in fact he canceled the massachusetts date last year because of it, which i was going to attend. i’m seeing him tomorrow, though, can’t wait.
November 24, 2008 at 2:51 AM
it has become clear to me waht happened. danzig has never done a full misfits setlist. however he was touring with doyle and doing 5 or so songs with him. for whichever reason though, he doesnt LIKE playing misfits songs. so the fact that he’s doing them at all, and especially with doyle, is a good reason to advertise it, since its a special occasion. for whatever reason that wasnt written on that setlist (maybe there was no setlist, maybe there was a different setlist). when he got injured he decided to cut things, and for whatever reason, he decided to cut the misfits jam (probably a bad decision).
the reality is that danzig’s ego got the best of him. sometimes musicians do not like playing the songs everyone likes but the songs they want to perform, for whatever reason. its the gift and the curse of a pioneer, they dont give a shit what other people think about them. so yeah, poor choice, but with danzig, you kinda have to take the good with the bad.
id be pissed off too if they didnt do misfits songs. i feel bad for you.
November 27, 2008 at 1:25 AM
I’ve seen two Danzig concerts and both of them blew me away. A lot of my favorites – stuff from 2,3 and 4 were played, so I was an easy sell. The first Danzig show I went to, we got “Skulls” as a reward for going absolutely crazy during the rest of the set…he didn’t even have Doyle with him for that tour.
The next time I saw him was during the Blackest of the Black that year, with Doyle in tow. The Misfits set was fun, but a lot of my favorites didn’t get played, but then again when you’re getting something like an authentic Misfits set from the only person around who can still do it (and have it worth listening to) you can’t exactly be picky.
He’s not going to please everyone. Fuck, the fact that he’s 53 and still performing is impressive in and of itself.
As for getting injured and cutting part of a setlist off…as was said above, that is just luck of the draw. I’ve seen other bands that were total shit one night, and phenomenal the next…that is the chance you take going to a show. If you want a perfect experience every time, stay home and listen to the albums really loud.
One of the shows I saw, Danzig was sick and had blown his voice out at the previous gig – with the exception of a couple parts here or there, he still carried it off perfectly. Hell, I’ve had to play shows sick/injured – I know how much of a fucking chore it is.
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March 7, 2009 at 11:52 PM
ARE YOUR PUSSIES DONE HURTING YET?
ANYONE THAT WOULD PAY THAT MUCH TO SEE GLENN AND DOYLE DO A COUPLE MISFITS TUNES DESERVES NOTHING BUT AN OVER-PRICED DANZIG SHOW. IDIOTS.
– DAN ZIGGY
March 10, 2009 at 12:22 AM
I saw Danzig in Philly the night after his Baltimore show, and they DID encore with “Classic Misfits” tunes. He obviously wasn’t in the proper shape to perform one for the Baltimore show, and instead of looking at it as him ripping off the fans, note the fact that he finished his set in what I can only assume was some “minor discomfort”. This is proven by the cancellation of his show the night after Philly’s, where he couldn’t perform due to his injury. All I can say is this: The dude played a damn good show with a fucking sling, as well as the encore to boot. Danzig’s the man, he respects his fans, and the fans should know enough to think more of him.
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I feel your pain.
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misfits are gone man, get over it. Their songs are 30 years old now (I have been a misfits fan since 88 btw)
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