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WAR ON TERROR: Bin Laden body was flown To US military mortuary

It’s sad that ANONYMOUS and Wikileaks have more credibility to me than the U.S. government. Very sad.
LINK URL: https://www.wikileaks-forum.com/index.php/topic,10164.0/topicseen.html

Honestly, I think Palestine is the one showing restraint.

If someone told me the UN mandated that a bunch of non-american citizens* get to come into my house and forcefully take it away from me without any compensation, then force me to live within new borders that are not of my choosing [let’s say, New Jersey] …. I’d make sure to blow ANY of them up using ANY means necessary. Because that’s what happened.

I got a college buddy who’s parents still have the deed to their house, but they were forced out and it was given to their jewish tenant (who’d been paying them rent up to that point). He tried to sell it back to them but Israel blocked it. He then tried to give it back to them, but they refused, because that would acknowledge the illegal confiscation. Suffice to say they were lucky and made it to America but not until after his sister was killed. They got to drink their own urine too. [sarcasm] Yay world war 2 never ending for a whole country! [/sarcasm]

None of this was started by the people who were there. There’s always a lot of friction between various groups in the middle east, but nothing of the magnitude of the original resettlement has been done since. There were several waves of Jewish emmigration to Israel, but not until the end of WW2 [and the 1967 war] did they literally decide to take over the country by simple virtue of being there and having the UN say, “Yeah, go ahead.”

This shit wouldn’t fly in America. If the UN forcefully resettles a whole nation of people here, taking away people’s land with no choice, I’m joining the tea party and as many militias as possible…. But I probably woudln’t need to because our gun ownership is among the highest in the world, and Americans wouldn’t take that shit any more than the Palestinians had. We would fight. We would blow them up. And if we were lame enough to use suicide bombers instead of remote controlled cars [miniature or normal] with bombs on them, they would be honored as patriots the same way kamakaze fighers were for Japan in WW2. We wouldn’t call them cowards, we’d call them brave. Moral relevancy is an interesting thing, isn’t it?

Anyway, you don’t get to just steal countries by UN mandate.

[[*Let’s say Hispanics, since they’ve been coming here a lot, just like Jews were coming to Israel a lot in the early 1900s.]] (more…)

isn’t it interesting that Israel can build all kinds of illegal settlements in Palestinian land:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/02/2009216134248562227.html

and then turn around and declare Palestinian homes that have been in Jerusalem since pre-1967 illegal, and bulldoze them:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/02/2009222211021436690.html

I’d love to see this explained without resorting to mindlessly-repeated rhetoric. (more…)

Does anyone remember the great American genocide? Where we systemetically killed almost an entire race of people (the Native Americans) and then took their land? We then moved them to “reservations” (which are glorified concentration camps) where they are exploited to this day? (We performed forced sterilizations on them in the 1970s. Some reservations have a life expectancy of only 44yrs, with an unemployment of 85%.)

Did anyone know that the God, Jesus Christ, Christianity, Catholicism, and Pope were a big proponent of the cultural attitudes that created this? It was considered “colonizing”. The missionaries were doing the work of God by spreading Christianity, and enslaving non-Christians, while taking their party:

From Indian Country Today:

Documents from the 15th century, such as the papal bulls, show the papacy played a role in the genocidal onslaught that affected millions of indigenous people on the North American continent. In 1455, for instance, Pope Nicolas authorized Portugal ”to invade, search out, capture, vanquish and subdue all Saracens and pagans” along the west coast of Africa, enslave them and confiscate their property – which set the tone for European interaction with the indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere.

Now I have to ask — How is the Israel/Palestine situation any different? We have Jews that lived in Europe for centuries. Then Hitler came and killed a bunch of them. So they left. But they went to Palesetine (Jersusalem), because their silly religion says that is their holy land.

But there were already people living there — their whole life.

What happened to those people?

Like the American Indians, they had their property taken away from them, in part due to attitudes fostered by religion.

Like the American Indians, they had their land taken away from them, in part due to attitudes fostered by religion.

Like the American Indians, they had their sovreignity taken away from them, in part due to attitudes fostered by religion…

Like the American Indians, they had their lives taken away from them, in part due to attitudes fostered by religion.

Like the American Indians, they now live in reservations/concentration camps, with a lower life expectacny, higher unemployment, and less medical care.

You’d think the Jews would learn from their own oppressoin, but it appears all they learned was how to dole out the same medicine they took in the 1940s.

I guess this helps explains why my half-jewish grandfather, who liberated my jewish grandmother from a nazi labor camp after storming Normandy on D-Day, was still a racist to his dying day, denying my sister entry to his house because she dared to marry a black man.

Two wrongs do not make a right, and even people (or nations) who have fought for a good cause are often oblivious to their own hypocrisy.

It seems the very people involved in doing good during WW2, and stopping Hitler (which we only did after Japan attacked us; had Japan not attacked us it would be another Rwanda that nobody hears about) …. Did not actually learn any more lessons from it.

Killing people, occupying their land, taking away their rights — just because you are one religion with different attitudes than the other — just because your religion tells you that you have a greater claim to their land than the people currently living there do — is not right.

We’re lucky the American Indians didn’t have access to rockets and strap-on bombs when we genocided them in the colonial days, and that America was a relatively empty land at the time. If we had been densely populated like Israel, and had the technology existed in the colonial days — I have a feeling the American Indian/White American conflit would have been an exact mirror of the Palestinian/Israel conflict.

Maybe that’s why we support them so much?
Maybe we see ourselves in them?
Maybe having to declare Israel wrong would mean having to declare America wrong as well?

Maybe people dont’ want to think about how the Native Americans are STILL being oppressed 200+ years later.

Maybe the Palestnians have history books too, and know that after 200 years of lying peacefully submissive, the American Indians are still an oppressed people. So why should they wait around 200 years? Why should they sit there motionless, and not fight back, when history has shown that people oppressed tend to stay oppressed? *Especially* when it’s for religious and/or racial rasons.

I don’t know.

One thing I do know: The violence they perpetrate (over 3000 casualties in the last *WEEK*, 25% children, with depleted uranium being found in the wounded) is only made possible via the American Taxpayer. Your money goes to hurt other people in the name of God. After all, God is the only reason why the Jews felt like they had to have Jerusalem/Israel anyway.

It’s sad how people are fighting wars without even realizing that their religion is the cause of them.

It’s even sadder that Democrats, who are supposedly anti-war, voted in Obama, who appointed Rahm Emmanuel (son of a murdering pro-Israel terrorist himself; his father was a member of Irgun, an Israeli terrorist group that committed terrorism against arab people). In other words, expect no “CHANNNNGEEE!” or “Hope” for the Palestinian people. I voted for Nader who would have withdrawn all support from Isreal. I don’t want to see the Jews there killed, but you also don’t steal a whole country from someone. And 60+ years passing by doesn’t suddenly make it right.

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It’s a crazy day today! Check it out… The Jessica Rabbit picture is a realization of many childhood fantasies! (more…)

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